Double Standard Exposed

Thought Nugget” #40
by Rodney A. Brown Sr


Greetings to all in the name of Christ our Lord!

 Before reading this article, I would encourage you to pray that the Holy Spirit lead you into what is true.

Hosea 4:6 says”My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because
thou hast rejected knowledge,

 I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me:
 seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God,

 I will also forget thy children.”

This is a subject that many won’t touch with a ten foot pole!
But, I truly believe that if we are to seek those things which only please God,
then let’s be about our Fathers business!

Coed swimming is not only a modesty issue, but it is also a moral issue as well.
 To give this topic more justice, I’m soliciting the input of Joe Crews.


No discussion of modest dress would be complete without touching on the touchy subject of mixed swimming.
Only in this area is the miniskirt almost modest by comparison. Here, by the way,
we also discover the blind spot in Adventist dress standards. For some strange reason
 very little has been said or written on this glaring inconsistency in dealing with our young people.
While we take only a soft, role-book type of stand on miniskirts,
we have taken no official stand at all on the matter of mixed swimming. And even the unofficial views
of most of the ministry and members do not seem to bear any consistent correlation with the historic
 principles we have espoused as a church.

Although swimming is one of the finest kinds of recreational activity, the modem bathing suit
covers much less of the body than the skimpiest
microminiskirt. In truth, very little is left to the imagination. If we condemn the miniskirt,
 if we endorse any kind of modest dress principle, no matter how vague, how could
we by any stretch of the imagination condone a bathing suit as acceptable Christian apparel?
 Surely no one is so blind as to miss this point. Our young people are not blind,
and this is one of the reasons they seem not to listen anymore when we talk to them about modesty.
They see the double standard that is being practised.

It is common practice in our academies to include admonitions
 in our handbook about modest dress.
 After that, there may be much or little said about the
 length of dresses, including low necks, bare backs, and sleevelessness.
But in practically all our schools, sometime during the year, the students
and teachers go out to some waterfront location, and spend the day playing together in less clothing
than is worn by prostitutes who walk the city streets. In fact, if those students and teachers
 should walk down the main street of any small town wearing their bathing suits
they would be refused admission to most business places. They would scandalise even the
unconverted community, and risk possible arrest for indecent exposure. And yet we have blindly accepted this
 kind of dress as suitable for Seventh-day Adventist Christians to wear in mixed company.
It is ironic that what the world calls indecent in one location,
the church would call modest at another location.
 Does this make any kind of sense? The place has
nothing to do with it–it is the principle. The principle against
exposing the body applies on the street, the beach, or in the shopping center.

If you want a shocking example of how this creeping compromise has
reduced us to the level of the world around us,
 take a census of the most popular public beaches in July and August.
Thousands of Seventh-day Adventists will be mingling with the vulgar multitude.
And by the way, you will find no way to identify them from the haft-clothed atheists,
harlots, and thieves who frequent those resorts. zAll the flesh looks the same.
 Does the ocean-front location make it modest to shed our clothes? Do we believe that
 principles of modesty should be applied only at certain times and places?
 Are male responses to female nudity somehow thrown out of gear during beach parties and swimming socials?

I have found many of our members who have asked themselves the same questions,
but because no one else seemed to be questioning
the activity they went along without saying anything.
The general feeling seemed to be that the end probably justifies
 the means in this case. They are getting fine exercise and having a good time.

Others have rationalised that because everyone is in the same state of undress, no one is allowing a
big bad thought to come into the head. Also, they get so accustomed to seeing one another
 half naked that they no longer respond to it. These arguments are not only shallow, but they are untrue.
 If they were true, then we would have a great case for joining the nudist colony.


My convictions against mixed swimming grew in me as I observed the fruits of the practice.
 As a young intern-minister in Florida, my assignment in one beachside city was to
 chaperone the youth at their swimming party. I was astounded to see how
 inhibitions were lowered by the promiscuous mingling of boys and girls in their bathing suits.
 Physical liberties were taken, and undue familiarities appeared during
the games which were played both in and out of the water. I shall never forget
one thing I saw that day. It shocked me into taking my first stand
 against mixed swimming. One of the lady chaperones
climbed up on the shoulders of one of the men who was also helping to supervise the activities. She was one
 of the spiritual leaders in the church and he was a deacon. Her modesty on Sabbath morning was always exemplary.
If a breeze should have lifted her skirt even slightly to expose a knee she would have been embarrassed.
 Yet, I watched in amazement as she sat astride the shoulders of a man who was not her husband,
and rode him around in the water, shrieking with laughter, clad in a scanty bathing suit.
 She seemed to have no sense whatsoever of the impropriety of what she was doing.

Right then I decided that if this was the effect of mixed swimming
 I would have to take the position that it was wrong. During the thirty years since that day,
I have seen nothing which has changed my feelings about its evil influence.

A while ago I was asked to present these principles of modest dress at a camp meeting.
After the meeting, which had occupied two hours in the main auditorium,
 five young people were waiting to talk to me.
 The three girls and two boys, all college age, were quite upset by what I had said. The beautiful girl,
who seemed to be speaking for all the others, was especially vehement.
 She said, “How can you say mixed swimming is wrong? We have spent
this whole summer with a witnessing team on the Ocean City beach.
 We spent most of the time in bathing suits, giving Bible studies
 to other young people on the boardwalk. And this is Tom whom we met there,
 and he is to be baptised next Sabbath. How can you say
we did wrong when we were able to win him for Christ on the beach?”

I expressed joy for the young man who was to be baptised, and commended them
for leading him to Christ.
Then I asked Tom this question:
“Tom, in your association with these girls on the beach in their bathing suits,
did you ever find evil or impure thoughts coming into your mind because
of the way they were dressed?” Tom dropped his head for just a moment, and then answered,
 “Yes, of course I did.” Immediately the girls chorused their dismay.
“Why didn’t you tell us then?” one of them asked.
They seemed genuinely surprised that the boys had not come
up to them at the beach to tell them their suits were provocative.

They went away that day wiser young women, but do you think they forthwith gave up their custom of
 mixed bathing? I have found that in most cases the ladies do not change their dress
 styles even after learning how detrimental their influence. The goddess of fashion is a tyrant ruler,
and few are committed enough to yield their darling indulgences, especially when the attire caters to the serf nature.
 Dr. Harold Shryock gives this counsel to young dating couples:

“Avoid mixed swimming. Swimming of itself is a wholesome recreation.
 But when members of both sexes swim together there is introduced an element
of personal display which, for any normal human being, directs the thoughts toward
the physical characteristics peculiar to the opposite sex. The effort of mixed
swimming is to make commonplace those considerations that, for the Christian, are sacred.
Mixed swimming tends to lower personal standards of decorum, making physical
 familiarity seem less objectionable.” The Youth’s Instructor, July 19, 1960.

In the March 1971 issue of Ministry magazine a letter to the editor was
 printed which is worthy of wide distribution.
 The letter was written by Elder Don Hawley, editor of Life and Health magazine.

“In the January, 1970, issue of the Ministry, one of our ministers wrote concerning the matter of modesty.
He pointed out that our criticism of the miniskirt did not seem to
correlate with our complete lack of concern about mixed bathing.
 He, along with the editors, asked that others express their opinion on the
subject, but there has followed a strange silence.

“Is it possible that we know intuitively that mixed bathing is not proper,
 but since it is so universally practised by the
 church it seems best to ignore the situation? If so, this is a ‘head in the sand’ approach.
 No matter how universal some impropriety may be,
we still have to answer individually in the judgement.

“Perhaps there were those who did have convictions,
but who felt it would not be politically expedient to express them.
 I once heard a conference president downgrade a particular pastor
because ‘he’s rather fanatical; he doesn’t believe in mixed bathing.’

“We decry the wearing of shorts, the backless back, and plunging neckline, and the miniskirt, pointing
 out that such people are ‘half naked.’ But if that person switches to a condition of being three quarters naked
(i.e. into swim wear), then all is well. Apparently if we want to do
 something badly enough, such as engage in mixed swimming,
then the laws of modesty can be temporarily abrogated.

“Until a few years ago at least, a person leaving a public beach in
swimming attire and walking a block to a shopping area,
 would risk arrest for’ indecent exposure.’
 Isn’t it a bit strange that what the world labels indecent, the church finds acceptable?

“In one conference the following regulations are in force during camp meeting: ‘Swimmers are requested to
 use bathing caps and to be properly and modestly dressed going to and from the pool.
 Street clothes or bathing robes are required.’
Think about this for a moment. The unavoidable inference is that once one gets to the pool,
it will be all right to wear only bathing attire and be immodestly dressed …. “

Some have asked whether E. G. White spoke on the subject of mixed bathing.
According to the White Estate there is no record of such counsel. Obviously,
the wearing of bikinis and skimpy bathing suits was not any problem under the Victorian aura of the mid-1800s.


When I wrote for information on the subject from the White Estate,
they sent me a copy of a letter which had been written to someone who had made a similar inquiry.
 The secretary of the Estate wrote the letter December 8, 1953:

“The question of mixed bathing about which you wrote sometime ago is
certainly a most difficult one to deal with under present day conditions.
 Unfortunately we have not a single statement in the writings of Ellen G. White in which the subject is mentioned directly.
 Conclusions must be based on principles stated in
 the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy rather
than on any specific bit of instruction. Of course,
 this is true of many other subjects concerning which we must make decisions regularly.
You asked about my convictions on the matter,
so I shall pass them on with some of the statements of principles involved in reaching the conclusions.

“In dealing with a good many hundreds of young people during the years of my teaching,
I have discovered what you have also found–that, while it may be difficult to hold the
 line regarding some standards and activities, it is easier to hold than to back up
 after yielding to pressure to follow a course of action that is not clearly a right one.
 So far as I can learn, our colleges that have pools are still holding to separate periods for swimming.
 That is the position recommended by our Missionary Volunteer Department, and I believe the position is a sound one.

“You may be interested to know that the Missionary Volunteer Advisory Council,
 in its meeting just preceding the recent Autumn Council, emphatically reaffirmed
its former position that we should not sponsor groups for mixed bathing.
 While the action does not specify all of the situations involved,
the discussion centred in the church and M.V. Society, the school, and the camp.
 The men felt that circumstances warrant a strong reaffirmation of this point of view.
Their observation has been that where some have not followed this course, most unfortunate results have obtained.

“You mentioned that our young people are beyond being shocked by anything they might
see in connection with a swimming party. I believe that is true of many of them.
 One of my great questions is whether we as church leaders should sponsor
 things that will only serve to foster this tendency to be shock-proof.
We must admit that repeated exposures to conscience-deadening influences
have brought our young people to the condition in which we find them.
Is it not our responsibility to do our best to avoid anything that will continue these influences?
 Rather than there being more reasons today for going
 ahead with mixed bathing than in the past, it seems that with the increased
 freedom of association and almost complete lack of inhibitions on
the part of young people the reasons for avoiding more freedom are multiplying.

“So far as the argument is concerned that people are so used to seeing immodesty that
immodest bathing suits mean nothing to them, I believe that it is entirely fallacious.
 The Bible instruction is that Christians should be modestly
dressed no matter what anyone else does. The fact that
many consciences are hardened does not alter basic principles.
It would require a rather ingenious individual to invent arguments
 to prove that the modern version of the bathing
suit is ‘modest apparel.’ While many refuse to admit it, for boys and men to be in close association
with girls and women in the near state of nudity that the current bathing suit encourages
is a very real source of temptation. All one needs to do is to take a glance at some of the
 advertising matter for women’s bathing suits,
 to discover that it is the studied purpose of the manufacturers to focus male attention
on the female form. For the church to encourage association on this basis is not a soul-winning endeavour.


“While it is true that many young people, especially the teenagers,
consider us unrealistic in our approach to matters of this sort,
 that is not a new attitude. My contact with history has left me with the distinct
impression that every generation of young people has considered its elders hopelessly out of date.
 As Christian parents and leaders, God has left it in our hands to teach our youth in such a way that,
while they may not fully agree with us at present, the time will come when
 they will see the wisdom of our course. I have had many
 young people in later years thank me for prohibitions against which they chafed when they first encountered them.

“You mentioned that those who are interested in swimming parties do not support the other social activities of the church.
However, if you should inaugurate church sponsored swims, most of these
 individuals would still not support anything but the swims.
They would not immediately gain interest in the other activities just because you had yielded to their urging in this matter.

“All this may sound as if I am one of those ‘ridiculously unrealistic’
 persons of whom the young people speak. I assure you that this is not so.
 It is just that I have lived with young people every day for so many years that
 I have become exceedingly aware of the results when we yield to some of their unwise urgings.
 These days we need to place before our young people every
incentive for right thinking and acting. Mixed bathing is not such an incentive.

“Swimming is one of the best of all exercises, and certainly it is a proper physical activity for
Christians when engaged in moderation and under the proper circumstances. If it is the physical benefit
that is desired, this object can be gained by our sponsoring swims
for young men and young women separately in appropriate places.
I greatly miss the opportunity to go swimming as frequently as I would like,
because of the difficulty of finding suitable places for the recreation.
I know many others who feel the same way, but our young people must learn to
 take a proper attitude toward denying present pleasures for future benefits.

“I sympathise with you in your problem. It is a perennial one in our schools,
and I have been trying to cope with it for a dozen years. It seems to me that
this is something that must be left as a decision for families to make.
If consecrated parents decide that they wish to accompany their children as
a family or as a group of families, certainly we should not condemn them, but for the church
 to sponsor swimming parties of this kind is an entirely different matter.”

May the Holy Spirit continue to work in our lives on this behalf!

God Bless You!!!


I so love this one Rodney! For two reasons :1# I wanted to write a post on my blog for christian women this week regarding modesty but didn’t have a topic for my article .Number 2# This is my dilemma: Funny I ‘m taking swimming lessons at the moment at my local leisure centre
(I know sad at my age,being born on an island and all that)

There are 5 of us adult women (I’m the youngest and the only afro-caribbean) and the instructor

 is female as well but the two lifeguards are 5/10 times male. Its being bugging me that
I should be covering myself. I’ve been pushing it out of my mind. Two of the older caucasian ladies are 50ish and 60ish they should know about modesty they are wearing the same as me. The other two well one is asian and the other looks turkish/middleastern either way they are I would assume be
Muslim or Hindu background(i’m not sure) They are wearing the same one piece????????

Just before sundown on Friday I was in an outdoors shop looking for camping gear but I found myself looking for swim suits. Then just last night I was just browsing at an online shop I use frequently and something took hold of the mouse and clicked on swimwear. I have 3 swim suits I dont really need another one and they are one pieces. (i rationalised) Though the one pieces were similar to the three I already own I instinctly knew this was “not ” what I was looking for without looking for it.

I did my first presentation on Sabbath Afternoon to another denominations womens ministry meeting and I came away feeling exhilirated but at the same time a sense of responsibilty came over me that I must practise what I preach or maybe that was the Holy Spirit whispering to me again

Then I get this message from you when I logged on and all of a sudden it hit me.

That was the Holy Spirit trying to give me a hint. I JUST COULDNT ARTICULATE IT.

So do I wear swim dresses or that scubadiving-type of out fit or are you suggesting shorts

 and Tee shirts? I don’t want to drown. Perhaps I should discuss this with my husband actually?

Your Confused lil-sister -in christ

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